Jamie Baillie: NetKop, Netk00k or... Spammer?

Y'know, some people just don't know when to call it quits.

Wherein Dave Posts A Test Message To news.admin.net-abuse.email

Subject: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:39:54 -0500
Organization: MGT Consulting
From: Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>

test

(my newsreader has been acting up...)

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------
Dave Lugo   dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com    LC Unit #260   TINLC
Have you hugged your firewall today?   No spam, thanks.
--------------------------------------------------------
Are you the police?  . . . .  No ma'am, we're sysadmins.

So okay, yeah, Bad Idea. Test messages are supposed to be posted to misc.test or alt.test or something. Fine. Nobody's perfect. And Dave is a well-known anti-spammer and competent network Admin.

Wherein Jamie Baillie Larts Dave

I'm providing a link to Google's newsgroup archives 'cause I know damn well that if I reprint Jamie's post here, he'll whine about his silly k00kyright notice. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Read it here: Jamie Larts Dave

Jamie can lart Google now :). Anyway, back to the story...

Okay, larting Dave this way was kinda silly, IMO, all things considered. But he was correct. Would that he had left it at that.

Wherein Dave Pulls Jamie Baillie's Chain

(Note: this is amazingly simple to do, as you'll soon see.)

Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:56:31 -0500
Organization: MGT Consulting
From: Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>

Jamie wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> "Dave Lugo" <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com> wrote in message
> news:3E24678A.D427B96E@etherboy.com...
> 
>>test
>>
>>(my newsreader has been acting up...)
>>
>>--
>>--------------------------------------------------------
>>Dave Lugo   dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com    LC Unit #260   TINLC
>>Have you hugged your firewall today?   No spam, thanks.
>>--------------------------------------------------------
>>Are you the police?  . . . .  No ma'am, we're sysadmins.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave posts all test in news groups alt.test
> not in here.   Do not spam the newsgroup.
> 

You know, you're absolutely right.


> Post your test message in the correct news group.

I will.

> 
> 
> Jamie
> 

...still annoying as ever, I see.


> - --
> For newsgroups and email this message is the property of the sender.
> NO portion of this message may be copied or reposted without my
> written consent. The message may not be altered in any way with
> out written permission. Copyright  2002 by Jamie
> 

Reposted without your written consent. Neener neener!


-- 
--------------------------------------------------------
Dave Lugo   dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com    LC Unit #260   TINLC
Have you hugged your firewall today?   No spam, thanks.
--------------------------------------------------------
Are you the police?  . . . .  No ma'am, we're sysadmins.

Now it seems to me that anybody with two neurons to rub together would've taken the clue and given it a pass. But not Our Jamie, oh no...

Wherein Jamie Baillie Once Again Justifies His Well-Deserved "Moron Of The Quarter" Award?

(See: 3Q02 Moron of the Quarter Survey: surfer800@hotmail.com)

Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:20:39 -0500
Organization: MGT Consulting
From: Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>

shiksaa wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:12:06 -0500, Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>There must be a reason that I have Jamie kill-filed...
>>>
>>
>>I think my provider and the folks I do DNS with may also killfile him, 
>>based on the over-the-top complaint he sent everyone and thier mother.
> 
> 
> He complained about your test post?
> 

Yup.  Not that he didn't have a point - I should have test-posted 
elsewhere.  But asking for my connectivity, DNS, and website to be 
whacked would seem to be the response of a k00k.

Is there a FAQ on Jamie anywhere?  If not, it may be time for one...

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------
Dave Lugo   dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com    LC Unit #260   TINLC
Have you hugged your firewall today?   No spam, thanks.
--------------------------------------------------------
Are you the police?  . . . .  No ma'am, we're sysadmins.

Oh. My. God.

This, it seemed to me, was just crying out for a troll. So...

Wherein I Blatantly Troll Jamie Baillie

(And I do mean blatantly. Just look...)

Subject: Test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:50:01 -0000
Organization: tino
From: trolling@LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour)

I just posted a message to this board a few seconds ago and I can't
see it!  Plus I searched Google for it and it doesn't show up!!!

So I thought I'd better post a test message to see if I'm getting
out.

Can you see me?

Thanks,
Jim
-- 
Jim Seymour                          | "Some of the lies are so strange it
WARNING: The "From:" address is a    |  makes you wonder about the spammer's
spam trap.  DON'T USE IT!  Use:      |  sanity."
jseymour-at-LinxNet-dot-com          |   - Ed Foster, "The Gripe Line" 6/24/02

Not only was the post itself obviously a troll, and blindingly-so, IMO, but not less than four other newsgroup regulars followed-up to it, giving away the game even had Jamie been so utterly clue-impaired as to have missed it in the first place.

That's okay, tho, no harm was done :). Unbelievable as it may seem, he bit anyway.

Wherein Jamie Baillie Larts My Usenet "Spamming"

Later, I find this awaiting me...
From darkshad-at-subdimension-dot-com  Wed Jan 15 15:17:22 2003
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From: "Jamie" <darkshad-at-subdimension-dot-com>
To: <newsabuse-at-supernews-dot-com>
Cc: <abuse-at-LinxNet-dot-com>, <postmaster-at-LinxNet-dot-com>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

This person is going around spamming the usenet
newsgroups with junk that is totally in the wrong
group. This person should have posted
this test message in a newsgroup such as misc.test
or alt.test.

This person continues to spam the newsgroup
with this useless garbage. This is totally unacceptable.

The orginal spam with the full headers is located
bellow.

Please see that action is immediately taken against
this person.


Jamie



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For newsgroups and email this message is the property of the sender.
NO portion of this message may be copied or reposted without my
written consent. The message may not be altered in any way with
out written permission. Copyright  2002 by Jamie



[included Usenet "spam" snipped]

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Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use 

iQA/AwUBPiXBvsEMFRGDvLL1EQIRYwCfccLFVXstp4OTv/PXSyyd/HmKwlMAn2pi
nD8U2Dqc3RyJknQ8hXFAM9Gd
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*Sigh*

First of all, Jamie, I'm not "going around spamming Usenet." Nor have I continued "to spam the newsgroup with this useless garbage." At worst I posted one test message to a newsgroup. But the funny thing is: It wasn't even a real test message, you dolt! It was a troll. (Go look it up.) And not just any troll, Jamie. Oh no. This was a blindingly obvious troll. My God, man, I even put "From: trolling@LinxNet.com" in it!

Oh yeah, there was this, also...

Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:28:05 -0000
Organization: tino
From: rule3@LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour)

In article <gut92v0n38j1dgar1f02c6hr9qcl2mlc94@4ax.com>,
        invalid-@-example-dot-com writes:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:20:39 GMT, "Jamie" <darkshad-at-subdimension-dot-com>
> wrote:
[snip]

Damn.  I don't seem to be seeing Jamie's articles.  Maybe something
wrong with my newsreader or something?  Lemme try this...

Test.

Can you see me, Jamie?

-- 
Jim Seymour                          | "Some of the lies are so strange it
WARNING: The "From:" address is a    |  makes you wonder about the spammer's
spam trap.  DON'T USE IT!  Use:      |  sanity."
jseymour-at-LinxNet-dot-com          |   - Ed Foster, "The Gripe Line" 6/24/02

Which was another obvious troll, posted as a follow-up to the original thread started by Dave's "test" post. You know: The thread wherein everybody else told you you were out-of-line and behaving like a flaming idiot yet again?

Oh by the way: The abuse@ and postmaster@ role-account handler for LinxNet.com was highly amused by your complaint. I'll let you figure out for yourself just why that might be. Should be no problem for you, you being the Überantispammer you are and all.

Sheesh.

18 Feb., 2003

Note: On Jan. 17 Jamie subsequently complained about this web page to LinxNet.com's "Powers That Be" ;), LinxNet.com's upstream and, for reasons known best only to Jamie himself, ATTBI. Amazingly: he included the entire above contents of this web page. I'll post the complaint some day in the future, perhaps.

Dave Lugo pointed out this link to a Googled'd copy of Jamie's complaints to Dave's upstream and DNS peers about Dave's "test" post to NANAE.

26 Feb., 2003

Given Jamie's recent activities (see the item under "Other Examples Of Jamie-isms" [below], added Feb. 26, 2003), I feel it only appropriate to go ahead and add a copy of the complaint Jamie registered about this very web page. Herewith I present ...

Wherein Jamie Baillie Complains About This Web Page

[Added Feb. 26, 2003]

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From: "Jamie" <darkshad-at-subdimension-dot-com>
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First off this repeated harasement by your users will NOT
be tollerated. I expect that all accounts used by this person
will be immediately terminated.

2nd off this person has NO permission what so ever
to repost any of that information on that site. And I expect
that these slanderous lies will IMMEDIATELY stop.

He has already copied some of my messages on
this website. Which is totally unacceptable,
See that this is site is immediately removed.

I doubt that linxnet.com will be less then responsive
to this email so I am ccing the upstream on this email
as well. Please see that you contact your downstream
and that this site is removed. If they are not
willing to remove this slanderous site then I
expect that you will take action against your customer
and terminate thier connection till such time as
they agree to remove this website.


These lies and constant harasement by your user
will not be tollerated. and I expect that this
webpage will be immediately removed.

http://www.linxnet.com/k00ks/Jamie.html


Please see that immediate action is taken in this
matter and that it is promptly resolved.  If it is
not promptly resolved then other legal action
will be taken.


Jamie


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For newsgroups and email this message is the property of the sender.
NO portion of this message may be copied or reposted without my
written consent. The message may not be altered in any way with
out written permission. Copyright  2002 by Jamie
Following his k00kyright notice (above), he then pasted into his "complaint" a text rendering of this entire web page as it existed at that time, as well as copies of Usenet posts. (Apparently the irony of that action, given his k00kyright notice, completely escapes him.)

Jamie, there's been no "harassment" - only the documenting of your antics lest anybody take you seriously. Secondly: I have all the permissions I need to publish what's on this page. There has been no "slander." There have been no "lies." Slander and lies, by definition, require untruths. There are no untruths on this page. It is merely documentation.

Wherein Jamie Baillie Goes Over To The Dark Side?

It was noted back on Feb. 26th that it appeared Jamie had joined The Club Built On Spam (see below). Now comes, apparently from his own keyboard, this:
".... you should really try DHS and actually MAKE some money
instread of wasting your time posting here..."
"Here" refers to the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email.

References:

In another thread, entitled "Attention Jamie, Copyright Boy," Bill provides this little tidbit:


From a PalTalk profile sent me by a disgruntled insider (which DHS Clubbers
use for training meetings):
Nickname:   TeamJamie
I'm a:    M,   Age: 30-39
Location:     Canada 
MemberSince:  2003-02-26

Here's the Google archive for that one.

Wherein Jamie Baillie Threatens To Hold His Breath Until His Face Turns Blue

Posted by Jamie to the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email:
Also I am going to continue top posting from now
on till that bogus spews record is removed.
Here's the Google archive

Wherein Jamie Baillie "Rebuts" The Contents Of This Web Page

Posted by Jamie to the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email:
All a bunch of lies that have been put out there by a**holes
like you.

Jamie
[Ed. note: The above text mildly edited to preserve the sensibilities of those who may find crude language unsettling.]

Here's the Google archive

Wherein Jamie Baillie Asserts The "Hacker X" Defence

In the interest of fairness...

Excerpt from a post by Jamie to the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email:

And any IP that you saw comming up as possibly even mine that
is possible because I had a slight security issues with one of my
machines.
Here's the Google archive

Excerpt from another post by Jamie, on the same subject, to the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email:

As we all know there was a security risk with my machine
and some one was using my machine to make it look like
me.
Here's the Google archive

[Ed. note: But, er, this web page is "All a bunch of lies...." M. Net Defective said so, himself!]

Seeking to further enlighten the world, vis-a-vis exactly what it was that had happened, Jamie later explained:

It was a trojan now it was identified that it was that
machine the trojan was not identified
but it was identified as being that machine.
Here's the Google archive

[Ed. note: Lies? Ha! I couldn't make stuff like this up if I tried. Really! I'm just not that... imaginative.]

Other Examples Of Jamie-isms

Yes, folks, he's still at it.

Marc Dufour's Jamie goes ballistic (added Feb. 18, 2003) (Yes, I know, the link might not work. Then again: Maybe it will.)

What in the world is Jamie up to now? At Jamie Baillie, Canadian Professional Annoyance: Spammer of the Week, we find he's now achieved the dubious honor of being named "Spammer of the Week" by The Club Built On Spam site? Huh??? (added Feb. 26, 2003) Also: Spammer: Jamie Baillie at SpamReaper.org. (added Nov. 12, 2003)

And the beat goes on (and on, and on...)

Jamie Baillie claims he's not a spammer. (Or attempting to be a spammer--one suspects he's not very good at it.) Really? Hmmm... Read Jamie Baillie's Attempts to Purchase "Spammable" Proxies and decide for yourself. (added May 24, 2003)

Jamie Baillie Larts Again! Wins prestigious ""Strategic Lart Against Public Participation" Of The Year award!

Jamie Baillie runs into a problem building a Perl module. So what does he do? You guessed it: Jamie argues with the developer and "escalates" it to the CPAN maintainers.

Once Jamie Baillie gets an idea into his head, it takes strong medicine to dislodge it. In this zip download, we see him complain to an ISP, and to somebody no longer associated with that ISP, repeatedly, until they're both finally obliged to locally block his email address.

Somebody--an ISP of some kind--actually listened to Jamie?!?! It seems that no-ip.com actually whacked an account as a result of Yet Another Typical Lamie-Gram. Wow! This has to be a first. (added Nov. 12, 2003)

That was an aberration. More typically, when Jamie netk0ps somebody...

Jamie gets trolled (*sigh* Yes, again)
Predictably, He "larts" the "offender"
The ISP blows him off
Since k00kboi can't seem to master the art of trimming unnecessary quoted material, let me save you the trouble of wading through all that. Summary:
ISP: "That's awesome, man. Maybe you could file a class action suit."
Jamie: "Nope they didn't blow me off at all."
[Ed. note: Huh?]
In this case, the ISP publicly reinforces the point
Nonetheless, Jamie continues to deny reality
(added Dec. 7, 2003)

Do a Google[tm] for "Jamie+Baillie" and you never know what you'll come up with. For example: Here we find Jamie has also tangled with the folk over at SpamCop. There's a shocker, eh? (added Nov. 24, 2003)

Jamie Baillie gets a web site dedicated to him! It's mirrored here (added Dec. 7, 2003)

My goodness! The boy even has his own SBL listing! (added Dec. 26, 2003)

By the way, Jamie Baillie won the prestigious Net Kook Of The Year award for 2002, taking a stunning 57% of the vote! (added Dec. 29, 2003)

Created: 15 Jan., 2003. Last Updated: 29 Dec, 2003

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