Jamie: NetKop or Netk00k?
Y'know, some people just don't know when to call it quits.
Wherein Dave Posts A Test Message To news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:39:54 -0500
Organization: MGT Consulting
From: Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>
test
(my newsreader has been acting up...)
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Dave Lugo dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com LC Unit #260 TINLC
Have you hugged your firewall today? No spam, thanks.
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Are you the police? . . . . No ma'am, we're sysadmins.
So okay, yeah, Bad Idea. Test messages are supposed to be posted to
misc.test or alt.test or something. Fine. Nobody's perfect. And
Dave is a well-known anti-spammer and competent network Admin.
Wherein Jamie Larts Dave
I'm providing a link to Google's newsgroup archives 'cause I know damn
well that if I reprint Jamie's post here, he'll whine about his
silly k00kyright notice. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Read it here:
Jamie Larts Dave
Jamie can lart Google now :). Anyway, back to the story...
Okay, larting Dave this way was kinda silly, IMO, all things considered. But
he was correct. Would that he had left it at that.
Wherein Dave Pulls Jamie's Chain
(Note: this is amazingly simple to do, as you'll soon see.)
Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:56:31 -0500
Organization: MGT Consulting
From: Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>
Jamie wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> "Dave Lugo" <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com> wrote in message
> news:3E24678A.D427B96E@etherboy.com...
>
>>test
>>
>>(my newsreader has been acting up...)
>>
>>--
>>--------------------------------------------------------
>>Dave Lugo dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com LC Unit #260 TINLC
>>Have you hugged your firewall today? No spam, thanks.
>>--------------------------------------------------------
>>Are you the police? . . . . No ma'am, we're sysadmins.
>
>
>
>
> Dave posts all test in news groups alt.test
> not in here. Do not spam the newsgroup.
>
You know, you're absolutely right.
> Post your test message in the correct news group.
I will.
>
>
> Jamie
>
...still annoying as ever, I see.
> - --
> For newsgroups and email this message is the property of the sender.
> NO portion of this message may be copied or reposted without my
> written consent. The message may not be altered in any way with
> out written permission. Copyright © 2002 by Jamie
>
Reposted without your written consent. Neener neener!
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Dave Lugo dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com LC Unit #260 TINLC
Have you hugged your firewall today? No spam, thanks.
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Are you the police? . . . . No ma'am, we're sysadmins.
Now it seems to me that anybody with two neurons to rub together would've
taken the clue and given it a pass. But not Our Jamie, oh no...
Wherein Jamie Once Again Justifies His Well-Deserved "Moron Of The Quarter" Award?
(See: 3Q02 Moron of the Quarter Survey: surfer800@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:20:39 -0500
Organization: MGT Consulting
From: Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>
shiksaa wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:12:06 -0500, Dave Lugo <dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>There must be a reason that I have Jamie kill-filed...
>>>
>>
>>I think my provider and the folks I do DNS with may also killfile him,
>>based on the over-the-top complaint he sent everyone and thier mother.
>
>
> He complained about your test post?
>
Yup. Not that he didn't have a point - I should have test-posted
elsewhere. But asking for my connectivity, DNS, and website to be
whacked would seem to be the response of a k00k.
Is there a FAQ on Jamie anywhere? If not, it may be time for one...
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Dave Lugo dlugo-at-etherboy-dot-com LC Unit #260 TINLC
Have you hugged your firewall today? No spam, thanks.
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Are you the police? . . . . No ma'am, we're sysadmins.
Oh. My. God.
This, it seemed to me, was just crying out for a troll. So...
Wherein I Blatantly Troll Jamie
(And I do mean blatantly. Just look...)
Subject: Test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:50:01 -0000
Organization: tino
From: trolling@LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour)
I just posted a message to this board a few seconds ago and I can't
see it! Plus I searched Google for it and it doesn't show up!!!
So I thought I'd better post a test message to see if I'm getting
out.
Can you see me?
Thanks,
Jim
--
Jim Seymour | "Some of the lies are so strange it
WARNING: The "From:" address is a | makes you wonder about the spammer's
spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | sanity."
jseymour-at-LinxNet-dot-com | - Ed Foster, "The Gripe Line" 6/24/02
Not only was the post itself obviously a troll, and blindingly-so, IMO,
but not less than four other newsgroup regulars followed-up to it, giving
away the game even had Jamie been so utterly clue-impaired as to have
missed it in the first place.
That's okay, tho, no harm was done :). Unbelievable as it may seem, he bit
anyway.
Wherein Jamie Larts My Usenet "Spamming"
Later, I find this awaiting me...
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From: "Jamie" <darkshad-at-subdimension-dot-com>
To: <newsabuse-at-supernews-dot-com>
Cc: <abuse-at-LinxNet-dot-com>, <postmaster-at-LinxNet-dot-com>
Subject: Test
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:17:04 -0500
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This person is going around spamming the usenet
newsgroups with junk that is totally in the wrong
group. This person should have posted
this test message in a newsgroup such as misc.test
or alt.test.
This person continues to spam the newsgroup
with this useless garbage. This is totally unacceptable.
The orginal spam with the full headers is located
bellow.
Please see that action is immediately taken against
this person.
Jamie
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For newsgroups and email this message is the property of the sender.
NO portion of this message may be copied or reposted without my
written consent. The message may not be altered in any way with
out written permission. Copyright © 2002 by Jamie
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*Sigh*
First of all, Jamie, I'm not "going around spamming Usenet." Nor
have I continued "to spam the newsgroup with this useless garbage." At
worst I posted one test message to a newsgroup. But the funny thing
is: it wasn't even a real test message you dolt! It was a troll. (Go look
it up.) And not just any troll, Jamie. Oh no. This was a blindingly
obvious troll. My God, man, I even put "From: trolling@LinxNet.com" in it!
Oh yeah, there was this, also...
Subject: Re: test
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:28:05 -0000
Organization: tino
From: rule3@LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour)
In article <gut92v0n38j1dgar1f02c6hr9qcl2mlc94@4ax.com>,
invalid-@-example-dot-com writes:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:20:39 GMT, "Jamie" <darkshad-at-subdimension-dot-com>
> wrote:
[snip]
Damn. I don't seem to be seeing Jamie's articles. Maybe something
wrong with my newsreader or something? Lemme try this...
Test.
Can you see me, Jamie?
--
Jim Seymour | "Some of the lies are so strange it
WARNING: The "From:" address is a | makes you wonder about the spammer's
spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | sanity."
jseymour-at-LinxNet-dot-com | - Ed Foster, "The Gripe Line" 6/24/02
Which was another obvious troll, posted as a follow-up to the original
thread started by Dave's "test" post. You know: the thread
wherein everybody else told you you were out-of-line and behaving like
a flaming idiot yet again?
Oh by the way: the abuse@ and postmaster@ role-account handler for LinxNet.com
was highly amused by your complaint. I'll let you figure out for yourself
just why that might be. Should be no problem for you, you being the
Überantispammer you are and all.
Sheesh.
18 Feb., 2003
Note: On Jan. 17 Jamie subsequently complained about this web page to
LinxNet.com's "Powers That Be" ;), LinxNet.com's upstream and, for
reasons known best only to Jamie himself, ATTBI. Amazingly: he included the
entire above contents of this web page. I'll post the complaint some day in
the future, perhaps.
Dave Lugo pointed out this link to a Googled'd copy of Jamie's complaints to Dave's upstream and DNS peers about Dave's "test" post to NANAE.
26 Feb., 2003
Given Jamie's recent activities (see the item under "Other Examples Of
Jamie-isms" [below], added Feb. 26, 2003), I feel it only appropriate
to go ahead and add a copy of the complaint Jamie registered about this very
web page. So I added ...
Wherein Jamie Complains About This Web Page
[Added Feb. 26, 2003]
From darkshad-at-subdimension.com Fri Jan 17 12:26:01 2003
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From: "Jamie" <darkshad-at-subdimension-dot-com>
To: <abuse-at-attbi-dot-com>
Cc: <abuse-at-linxnet-dot-com>, <postmaster-at-linxnet-dot-com>,
<root-at-linxnet-dot-com>, <webmaster-at-linxnet-dot-com>,
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Subject: test
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First off this repeated harasement by your users will NOT
be tollerated. I expect that all accounts used by this person
will be immediately terminated.
2nd off this person has NO permission what so ever
to repost any of that information on that site. And I expect
that these slanderous lies will IMMEDIATELY stop.
He has already copied some of my messages on
this website. Which is totally unacceptable,
See that this is site is immediately removed.
I doubt that linxnet.com will be less then responsive
to this email so I am ccing the upstream on this email
as well. Please see that you contact your downstream
and that this site is removed. If they are not
willing to remove this slanderous site then I
expect that you will take action against your customer
and terminate thier connection till such time as
they agree to remove this website.
These lies and constant harasement by your user
will not be tollerated. and I expect that this
webpage will be immediately removed.
http://www.linxnet.com/k00ks/Jamie.html
Please see that immediate action is taken in this
matter and that it is promptly resolved. If it is
not promptly resolved then other legal action
will be taken.
Jamie
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For newsgroups and email this message is the property of the sender.
NO portion of this message may be copied or reposted without my
written consent. The message may not be altered in any way with
out written permission. Copyright © 2002 by Jamie
Following his k00kywrite notice (above), he then pasted into his
"complaint" a text rendering of this entire web page as it existed
at that time, as well as copies of Usenet posts. (Apparently the irony of
that action, given his k00kywrite notice, completely escapes him.)
Jamie, there's been no "harassment" - only the documenting of your
antics lest anybody take you seriously. Secondly: I have all the permissions
I need to publish what's on this page. There has been no "slander."
There have been no "lies." Slander and lies, by definition,
require untruths. There are no untruths on this page. It is merely
documentation.
Other Examples Of Jamie-isms
Yes, folks, he's still at it.
Marc Dufour's Jamie goes ballistic (Feb. 18, 2003)
What in the world is Jamie up to now? At
Jamie
Baillie, Canadian Professional Annoyance: Spammer of the Week, we find he's
now achieved the dubious honor of being named "Spammer of the Week"
by The Club Built
On Spam site? Huh??? (Feb. 26, 2003)
Created: 15 Jan., 2003. Last Updated: 26 Feb., 2003